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By: CoffeeCupDobie

CoffeeCupDobie — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:35:15 +0000

Yes it is common and yes it is legal.
I didnt sell pups with breeding right to just anyone. They had to show the pups. They would get unlimited registration, but it was to show first and then to breed if the pup was titled.
Otherwise it was a limited registration, no breeding rights. This was when I breed my dogs(not right now, have bred in the past).
I rehome puppies and none of them will leave with breeding rights. They all have to be neutered.
Why you ask. Well I dont want the pups bred helter skelter.
I did have unlimited registration, and the people that bought those pups showed the pups titled the pups and then they could breed.
Are you going to show your dog? Do genetic testing? Do what is necessary to make the breed better?
Most breeders wont give you breeding rights unless you are willing to do this.
I know breeders that have one price for limited and another for unlimited (quite a bit more also.. like 2000. more.)
I dont know what you are paying for your dogs but this would not surprise me if they charged lots more for breeding rights.

So yes it is legal. (what are tickets?)

Crazy_cat_lady if I found a person with one of my puppies breeding said puppy with out proper papers I would come and take the puppy back! Dont encourage people to do that it is a violation of most spay/neuter contracts and a violation of the limited registration. The Dog and the pups would be living with me as the contract would then be null and void… per very good lawyer!

By: alicia S

alicia S — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:02:07 +0000

Just because you are getting a top notch dog doesn’t mean it would make a good breeding specimen. There are many things breeders look for to find what is right for their programs and their lines. Some lines won’t work well with others. Others are great. However if your malamute is on the smaller side…and 200 pounds sounds HUGE for this breed of dog…your dog probably wouldn’t be a picked specimen. Body shape matters a lot too as well as bone structure. Often the larger boned dogs are taken as breeding specimens because they are able to endure the stresses that breeding puts them under. And the breeder is also responsible for making sure that there are no skeletal problems, or no hip and elbow problems too. That is why most if not all breeders OFA their dogs. They pick specimens also based on the soundness of their bodies and their minds. Temperament is a HUGE factor when it comes to breeding.

This is the reason reputable breeders require a spay and neuter contract. Of course you have a top notch dog…because that’s what a reputable breeder goes for. If you check with many reputable breeders of different breeds you will find that they very rarely sell dogs for breeding.

By: dobiz_rule

dobiz_rule — Mon, 17 Aug 2009 04:31:22 +0000

I would say almost all reputable breeders sell their puppies to pet homes on limited registration. Some breeders will agree to lift that and convert to full registration if the dog finishes a champion ship or proves itself in other fields (agility, etc) and has been fully health tested. This way their protect their. BTW if you do breed your dog on a limited registration, the puppies will not qualify for AKC registration and usually you will pay a fine to the breeder.
It has nothing to do with competition, it has to do with making sure only those who really know the breed, its standards, its health concerns breed their dogs.

PS: raising good puppies is not a very profitable business, when you factor in costs of shows, health screening for the dogs and puppies, socialization, food, time you take off work (when whelping the litter) etc.
Do some research whether or not you really want to breed in the first place.

By: Emily H

Emily H — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 06:13:23 +0000

Yes it is called limited registration. Basically they do not feel the dog has breeding potential. I am assuming you are a pet only home. I am suprised they are not requiring a spay/neuter contract. I sure would if I was selling limited registration.

breeding should only be left to dogs who are qualified to contribute to the breed. With so many abandoned dogs, it’s pretty serious business to breed and should only be done to benefit the breed, not because someone wants puppies or wants to make money.

I have a dog whom I have full registration rights. I bought her as a show dog, to show. She comes from superb bloodlines and is a superb dog herself. However, that is my opinion and will ahve to be confirmed by a judge.

Your breeder seems to be quite responcible for not allowing breeding rights. I would do the exact same thing.

By: Loki Wolfchild

Loki Wolfchild — Fri, 14 Aug 2009 11:03:43 +0000

Wow, first of all, whomever is breeding that size Malamute is breeding a dog WAYYY out of standard. A 200 lb. malamute is an abomination that could not do its job, and should not be bred, in any case.

To answer your question, yes, responsible breeders generally sell on spay/neuter contract or withold breeding rights all of the time. You’re paying for a pet, and that is what you’re getting. If you were buying a dog to show or work, it might be a different story (of course, you couldn’t do either of those things with a 200 lb. Malamute, but I digress…)

Some breeders charge more for “breeding rights”; however, I would not consider that “responsible,” unless there was a showing/working stipulation associated with the price.

It is completely legal — if you agree to the terms of the breeder’s contract, you are bound by it.

If you are not comfortable with those terms, look elsewhere for your dog.

ADD: Personally I’d find a breeder that understands and breeds for correct size. Start looking here:

Expect to buy on a spay/neuter contract if you don’t plan to show or work the dog.

By: ?Golden gal?

?Golden gal? — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:56:32 +0000

Yes it not only legal but it is the breeders right to do this. I did it myself when I didn’t want a pup to be bred!
You have to understand that if a breeder does this it is for a very good reason. It is either to protect their lines against indiscriminate breeding or they feel the pup is not worthy of breeding in the first place.

Putting a pup on a limited registration is quite common and a lot of very good breeders do this.

By: ragapple

ragapple — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 00:56:55 +0000

THis is VERY common. VERY leagal (heck in LA you leagally must spay & neuter so it ain’t leagal for him TO sell breeding rights)
One of the untimate horrors for a breeder is the idea they might accidently sell a pup to a puppy mill or to a BYB who only values the dog as an ATM….

By: Terry M

Terry M — Mon, 10 Aug 2009 18:47:50 +0000

Yes, my research says it is very common. I just bought a purebred rough collie with champion lines and paid $900. If I wanted a show dog (buying the dog to show) it would have cost $1200 to $1500. The right to breed the dog is also a different agreement. My AKC registration a “limited” registration because I’m not showing him or breeding him. I believe this is correct…..but others feel free to jump in.